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Episode Overview:
Welcome back to Becoming Preferred, the show where we deconstruct the strategies that help you become the preferred choice in a crowded marketplace.
Now, we’ve all seen it: companies spending thousands on leadership retreats that result in a 'high' for three days and then… total stagnation. The missing piece isn't talent; it’s resistance.
Today, we are welcoming back, Mike Irving. Mike is the founder of Advanced Business Abilities, and he’s cracked the code on 'Resistance Removal'—a framework that delivers tangible leadership results in weeks, not years.
Today, Mike is pulling back the curtain on his Three Pillars for Success and revealing why communication is the ultimate foundation for developing a team of leaders, rather than a team of followers.
Whether you’re looking to sharpen your own edge or scale your team’s performance, this episode is your roadmap. Join me now for my conversation with Mike Irving.
Guest Bio:
Mike Irving is the founder of Advanced Business Abilities, a coaching company designed for established business owners who know they’re capable of more—but haven’t yet found a support system that truly meets them where they are.
With over two decades of leadership experience—from launching his first business at 21 to managing a national sales force of over 300—Mike understands the highs of entrepreneurial success and the hidden costs that often come with it: burnout, disconnection, and stalled progress.
Frustrated by one-size-fits-all coaching programs that glossed over individual nuance, Mike set out to build something different. The result was Advanced Business Abilities: a coaching platform that combines deeply personal insight with practical, strategic execution.
One of the unique aspects of ABA’s methodology is the Success Predictor Profile—a proprietary tool backed by 50+ years of scientific research—that helps easily and efficiently identify a person's strengths, weaknesses, and blindspots and allows ABA to give business owners a custom blueprint for growth, performance, and alignment.
Today, Mike works with owners leading teams of 5 or more, who are not just chasing revenue but want to lead with integrity, improve decision-making, and grow without sacrificing their health or values. His approach resonates with founders who are practical, values-driven, and actively investing in their long-term success.
Whether he’s coaching in a boardroom or speaking on a podcast, Mike brings a refreshingly honest, grounded voice to the leadership conversation—always focused on helping others do the work that actually works.
Resource Links:
- Website: https://advancedbusinessabilities.com/
- Product Link: https://advancedbusinessabilities.com/individual-sales-coaching/
Insight Gold Timestamps:
02:34 We know the things that we should be doing, we just don't always do them
05:04 I got to a place where there was enough pain that I was going, man, I don't know what to do
05:54 We've got a diagnostic tool that I call the Predictor Profiles
15:10 While I had a zero attention to detail, I also had a zero on patience
16:34 If I don't change this about me...
20:11 You are the king or the queen on the throne In your world
20:56 Outwitting the Devil, in my opinion, is the best book Napoleon Hill ever wrote
24:35 The education system that we've been through does not teach an individual how to think
25:23 Resistance fundamentally sits in moments that we're unwilling to experience
27:13 I call the framework the foundations of successful self-leadership
29:26 How do you get people to start taking responsibility for their outcomes and results in life?
32:13 The website is advancedbusinessabilities.com
32:25 People can do that completely free of charge if they go to audit.advancedbusinessabilities.com
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In 3, 2, 1.
Speaker BWelcome back to Becoming Preferred, the show where we deconstruct the strategies that help you become the preferred choice in a crowded marketplace.
Speaker CNow, we've all seen it.
Speaker BCompanies spending thousands on leadership retreats that
Speaker Cresult in a high for three days
Speaker Band then total stagnation.
Speaker BThe missing piece isn't talent.
Speaker CIt's resistance.
Speaker BToday, we are welcoming back Mike Irving.
Speaker BMike is the founder of advanced business abilities, and he's cracked the code on resistance removal, a framework that delivers tangible leadership results in weeks, not years.
Speaker BToday, Mike is pulling back the curtain on his three pillars for success and revealing why communication is the ultimate foundation for developing a team of leaders rather than a team of followers.
Speaker BWhether you're looking to sharpen your own edge or scale your team's performance, this episode is your roadmap.
Speaker BJoin me now for my conversation with Mike Irving.
Speaker CWell, hey, Mike.
Speaker CWelcome to the program.
Speaker CWe're excited to have you back again, Michael.
Speaker DThanks for having me, mate.
Speaker DI'm glad to be here.
Speaker CNow, where are we speaking to you from today?
Speaker DRight now I'm in Mendoza, Argentina.
Speaker DAnd if you've not been here before, I 100% recommend that you put it on your bucket list for three reasons.
Speaker DNumber one, some of the best wine in the world.
Speaker DNumber two, definitively the best steaks in the world.
Speaker DAnd number three, surprise, the best ice cream I've ever had in my life.
Speaker DAnd I'm not an ice cream guy, but man, the ice cream here is next level.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker CWell, I know Malbecs are, I think, come out of Argentina, and I've heard that they're Mendoza, and that's interesting.
Speaker CAnd I know from what I've been looking from a global perspective is Argentina is well posed to be a big leader in that whole southern hemisphere.
Speaker CAnd so I think I'm glad we have a good relationship with.
Speaker CWell, glad to have you.
Speaker CWherever you've been traveling, I know you've been all over the globe.
Speaker CLet's talk about your new project.
Speaker CAnd we're going to be talking today about unblocking our paths to success, removing the obstacles that stop us from moving forward.
Speaker CAnd I really like your approach to it.
Speaker CYou've developed a number of what we would call pillars, and you have three pillars for development, success that apply to individuals and to teams.
Speaker CCan you walk us through those pillars and why they got to be followed in a specific order?
Speaker CBecause there is a recipe that you've developed to this.
Speaker CLet's talk about that.
Speaker DYeah, 100%.
Speaker DI think that a lot of most people listening will Be familiar with the idea that we often know the things that would be the best things for us to do, but we often feel like, man, I'm just not able to do that consistently.
Speaker DFor whatever reason, we know the things that we should be doing.
Speaker DWe just don't always do them.
Speaker DAnd every business is based on a specific set of successful actions.
Speaker DThe three pillars that we help the members of our community implement are based on removing the resistance that stops them from being able to do those things.
Speaker DSo pillar number one, we're talking about radical awareness, like making sure you're aware of your blind spots.
Speaker DAnd they're called blind spots because we're generally not aware of them.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DPillar number two, taking absolute responsibility.
Speaker DSo fundamentally seeing and acknowledging that, hey, I create my own reality.
Speaker DAnd so if something's happening in my life, the source of it is something about me.
Speaker DAnd then the third pillar is moving into conscious, intentional creation.
Speaker DAnd we achieve that by removing this resistance that actually stops us from being able to do the things we know we want to do.
Speaker CIt's an interesting approach, and I know you have a great analogy, and I want to talk about it and bring it in when you talk about aviation and about a helicopter.
Speaker CI've been a pilot for most of my adult life, and one of the first things that we teach in pilot school when we're flying is what we call awareness, situational awareness.
Speaker CWhat's my situation?
Speaker CWhere am I?
Speaker CWhere am I going?
Speaker CWhat's my altitude?
Speaker CWhere am I in the right direction?
Speaker CDo I know what's going on?
Speaker CSo that's kind of like your first analogy that you use in this is we have a blind spot, and we don't know that we're even.
Speaker CWe don't even know what we don't know.
Speaker CAll right, so how do you get there?
Speaker CHow do you approach it with it?
Speaker CAnd where does a person have to be where they're going?
Speaker COkay, I'm willing to look at my blind spots, but.
Speaker CBut how do I find out what they are?
Speaker CBecause we are all, you know, we're successful.
Speaker CWe all work in our worlds.
Speaker CWe're all doing great job.
Speaker CHow important is that?
Speaker CAnd how do I get there?
Speaker DYeah, and that's an awesome question, man.
Speaker DI have found that a lot of the times, people aren't really willing to look at how they are reaching down and grabbing the rug and yanking it right out from underneath their own feet without knowing they're doing it right.
Speaker DThat's.
Speaker DIt takes bravery to do that.
Speaker DAnd for a lot of people, that bravery only comes Once there's been enough pain to actually be willing to look at it right, it's like, I want this to change.
Speaker DI'm a big advocate for, hey, don't wait till the pain is there.
Speaker DBecause the blind spots exist.
Speaker DWhether you like it or not, they do exist.
Speaker DFind out about them as early as possible and then go and take action because all that's going to do is speed up your progression.
Speaker DNow, I was one of the people who.
Speaker DI didn't do that.
Speaker DI got to a place where there was enough pain that I was going, man, I don't know what to do.
Speaker DI don't know who to turn to.
Speaker DI'd hired business coaches to help me and I found that all they did was fundamentally create more stress for me.
Speaker DNot that there was anything wrong with them, but they were tempting to get me to implement all these systems every week and that was creating more stress on top of what I already had.
Speaker DThe stress I was dealing with was created by my own resistance.
Speaker DNow, you can attempt to work through this on your own.
Speaker DThere's things you can do.
Speaker DYou can read books, you can intentionally sit and be an observer of yourself.
Speaker DAnd by doing that, just by observing your own behaviors, you will automatically begin to be more aware of them and to change them.
Speaker DWe've created a process that just helps speed that up exponentially.
Speaker DSo we've got a diagnostic tool that I call the predictor profiles.
Speaker DIt was created by somebody who spent 45 years of his life developing them.
Speaker DHe has since passed away.
Speaker DI first took these Predictor profiles in 2005.
Speaker DLet's just say that they were very revealing.
Speaker DThey highlighted a few things where I had some problems in my life.
Speaker CStrengths.
Speaker CWell, and we do SWOT analysis from a business perspective.
Speaker CWhat's my competition?
Speaker CWhat do they do?
Speaker CWell, what's our unique sum?
Speaker CWhat?
Speaker CWe fail to do that on ourselves.
Speaker CAnd so I like the idea you're looking at yourself first.
Speaker CAnd it's hard because we don't know always our strong points.
Speaker CI'll give you an example.
Speaker CI'm not detail oriented.
Speaker CI the details.
Speaker CI'm never going to be amazing at details.
Speaker CSo I have systems for details.
Speaker CI have people to help me with the details.
Speaker CI'm really good at strategy.
Speaker CI'm good at 30,000ft.
Speaker CI'm good at seeing how the whole picture goes together.
Speaker CSo I focus more on that and try and avoid the chasing shiny objects and, and getting chased up because then, you know, you don't master any of them.
Speaker CSo it's staying focused.
Speaker CIt's Maintaining clarity.
Speaker CSo what your diagnostic tool seems like it does is it provides some clarity as to what.
Speaker CHere's my strong points, here's my weak points.
Speaker CSo let's say I've got an inventory now of pros and cons, you know, things that are blind spots.
Speaker CSo what now?
Speaker CWhat?
Speaker DYeah, well that's, I guess that's where the real value of the last 20 years of my life comes into play.
Speaker DWhere, yeah, we use this assessment.
Speaker DIt's very good, it's very accurate, it shows us the ways that you're creating your own problems.
Speaker DBut the real value in our organization is in our ability to help you alter those results, which in turn then changes the results you get in real life.
Speaker DSo that's exactly right.
Speaker DIt's like it becomes a.
Speaker DSo we measure 49 success factors.
Speaker DThere's 49 traits that we measure.
Speaker DThey cover areas of attitude and character, general competency, aptitudes, and then skills and abilities, particularly around the subject of communication.
Speaker DNow when it highlights an area that shows up as a potential problem.
Speaker DAnd remember, we're not working with my opinion.
Speaker DYou've answered the questions and this is what it says about you.
Speaker DAnd we get comparative data of what successful people really look like.
Speaker DSo it's kind of like, well, this is it.
Speaker DDid you want to have some help to change this?
Speaker DOur function becomes to work with that person over a 6, 12, 24, 36 month period to help them alter those results.
Speaker DAnd we use the diagnostic as a measuring stick.
Speaker DSo you start, this is what it says.
Speaker DHey, 12 months later, what have we changed?
Speaker DTake the test again.
Speaker DLet's, let's do an evaluation and that way we can track progress over time.
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Speaker BAnd now back to my conversation with Mike Irving.
Speaker BAre there things that we should focus on?
Speaker CI went through Dan Sullivan's Strategic Coach program back in the 80s, late 80s, when it was just getting started.
Speaker CAnd one thing Dan, phenomenal program.
Speaker CAnd it's been around for, you know, 30, 40 years.
Speaker CIt's finding clarity and then finding your unique ability.
Speaker CEverybody has a unique ability, something they do, they're exceptionally well.
Speaker CAnd what Dan maintains is focus more on what you do well, your unique ability that makes you different.
Speaker CFocus less on what you don't because you're never going to be amazing at it.
Speaker CAfter I've taken my diagnostic tool, if there's some critical areas, you say they're mostly around communication or maybe around skill sets and then it goes, I need to work and improve on this, or is there, hey, don't even bother going down this road, get someone else to do that.
Speaker CHow does it segment that?
Speaker COr in other words, it's going to try and make me better and work on an area that I'm probably never going to get excited about.
Speaker CBecause we have to link behavior to motivation, right?
Speaker COtherwise, yeah, people fall off.
Speaker CIt's like they go to the gym in January and by February they're canceling their memberships because it's hard work, it's not fun, it's the habit's not there.
Speaker CYou got to be saying the same things.
Speaker DWell, it's really interesting that you raised that.
Speaker DSo the experience I've had over the last 20 years in particular shows me that changing behavior and changing attitudes and changing aptitudes, most people think that what's involved in doing that is hard work.
Speaker DSo they tend to think that if you were to graph the change, the graph does this over time.
Speaker DBut in my experience that's not true.
Speaker DIn my experience, what happens is the graph does this.
Speaker DIt stays totally level until you hit a moment and then bang, there's a jump up and then it stays totally level until another moment and jumps up again and then stays totally level and jumps up again.
Speaker DNow the reason I say that is because when we go to help someone change, we're not giving them techniques and practices to go and work hard at in order to be different.
Speaker DWe're actually identifying the real source resistance that's causing the problem.
Speaker DAnd when we remove the resistance, that's the moment that the graph Jumps up.
Speaker CInteresting.
Speaker DSo it's.
Speaker DIt doesn't have to be all this hard work.
Speaker DAnd I don't recommend that somebody.
Speaker DIf somebody's got.
Speaker DYou've raised attention to detail.
Speaker DSo that's one of the traits that we measure in our assessment.
Speaker DIf someone's attention to detail is, let's say, 10 out of 100.
Speaker DAnd by the way, when I first took the test, mine was zero.
Speaker DSo, like, I know what that feels like, right?
Speaker CSomewhere in there.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DOkay.
Speaker DIf somebody's score is 0 or 10 out of 100, then what that's actually measuring is it's measuring their willingness and interest to pay attention to detail, their willingness and interest to check the fine details of the work, recheck their work, make sure it's accurate, and pay attention to that.
Speaker DIt's not measuring ability.
Speaker DIt's measuring willingness and interest.
Speaker DSo if willingness and interest is low, all that means is that there's resistance that's restricting it.
Speaker DSo isolate the resistance.
Speaker DAnd we've developed processes and ways of helping people to do that.
Speaker DWhen the resistance comes off, that trait just jumps up.
Speaker DNow, mine was zero.
Speaker DThree years later, when I took the test for a, I don't know, fourth or fifth time, mine was 85.
Speaker CWhat was the resistance levels for you?
Speaker CWhat was identified for you from a resistance point of view?
Speaker CIf you don't mind sharing and then,
Speaker Dno, I don't mind at all.
Speaker CThat's a good example.
Speaker CWhat did you do differently and how did it.
Speaker CWhat was the outcome of that transformation?
Speaker DIf I can, I'll say that's probably not the question.
Speaker DThat would be the best question to ask.
Speaker DSo the question is probably what was I experiencing in moments where it was necessary to pay attention to detail?
Speaker DAnd what I would experience was, bloody hell, this is annoying.
Speaker DI just want to go and look at the high level.
Speaker DLet's go, blue sky.
Speaker DThis.
Speaker DCome on, somebody else can.
Speaker DAnd I would feel this emotion of impatience and frustration and annoyance, and I'd rather be doing something else.
Speaker DYeah, well, when you isolate those emotions down, that's all based in resistance.
Speaker DAnd that then meant that there was something that had happened, a couple of things that had happened earlier in my life that meant that the way I survived those things was details, just irrelevant.
Speaker DCome on.
Speaker DYou know, I'm just gonna go and do this.
Speaker CWorked in the past.
Speaker DYeah, yeah.
Speaker DAnd so when I.
Speaker CWhen I.
Speaker DWhen my attention was put on those things and a couple of really smart questions were presented to me, I all of a sudden went, oh.
Speaker DAnd it was like I could feel that Weight, lift off my shoulders, Light bulbs.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DAnd that didn't mean that I then became the researcher, chartered accountant.
Speaker DAttention to detail, to the nines.
Speaker DAnd that's all I spend my time doing.
Speaker DAll it meant is that I became much more willing to.
Speaker DTo pay attention to detail when it matters.
Speaker DAnd that has made such an enormous impact on my life.
Speaker DYou know another example, while I had a zero attention to detail, I also had a zero on patience.
Speaker COn patience.
Speaker DThat's probably not a good combination, is it?
Speaker DAnd then with that, I also had a 100 on competitive.
Speaker DAnd there's five traits that we measure attitudinally.
Speaker DAnd one of those traits is a trait called critical, which is your tendency to be critical of others, be judgmental, and see faults when they don't necessarily exist.
Speaker DAnd my critical score was up at 80.
Speaker DSo, I mean, put that together, I was an absolute pain in the ass.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DThat's the reality.
Speaker DIn my 20s, man, I was at that.
Speaker DI can look back at plenty of things and go, geez, what was I thinking?
Speaker DBut I now know that, hey, those things were really holding me back.
Speaker DAnd identifying them was.
Speaker DWhile it was very confronting, it was also very freeing because those things combined with a bunch of other things I saw on my results, I went, okay, hold on a second.
Speaker DI'm the one who answered these questions, and this is what my answers are reporting about me now.
Speaker DSomebody with those results would probably have these sorts of problems.
Speaker DI've got those sorts of problems, and those are my results.
Speaker DOkay?
Speaker DI can't ignore this.
Speaker DThis is really important.
Speaker DIf I don't change this about me, I'm not going to achieve what I want to achieve in the next 20, 30, 40 years of my life.
Speaker CDo you think you'll need a little maturity in order to figure that one out?
Speaker CMeaning, like, you know, I remember in my 20s, too, I can do everything.
Speaker COur egos are raging.
Speaker DPick the scale.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAn example that comes to mind just from awareness.
Speaker CYou know, I'm in my 60s now, and I measure my sleep.
Speaker CI use the Apple Watch.
Speaker CI measure blood pressure.
Speaker CI measure those things.
Speaker CAnd, you know, last summer I actually went through the process and my blood pressure was too high and it was not coming down.
Speaker CAnd I'm checking and I work out regularly, but found out that my grandmother and my mother have hypertension.
Speaker CI'm going, oh, okay.
Speaker CSo awareness, all right, that there's this issue exists and.
Speaker CAnd I'm doing all that I can, but I'm not getting the results that I'm looking for.
Speaker CAnd so by going in through some testing, through diagnostics, it's oh yeah, this is the issue.
Speaker CAnd hey, if you take this little low dose weight pill and take this regularly, it'll knock this thing down in a month.
Speaker CAnd it did.
Speaker CAnd now it's okay.
Speaker CI now have to take this little white pill that controls the blood pressure and keeps me into that 120, 78 range.
Speaker CI feel the same.
Speaker CNothing changed.
Speaker CExcept now that metric, that KPI, that thing I look in the dashboard is now changed.
Speaker CSo same thing.
Speaker CFrom a speaking point of view, there's things that are comments as speakers.
Speaker CYou and I get comments from the audience and we go, okay, it's good feedback.
Speaker CWe could get defensive or we can embrace and go, actually you know what, good point, That's a good point.
Speaker CIf you have kids, they're really good at helping you doing this.
Speaker CYou know, I've told my kids the statute of limitations on blaming us and how your life turns out is 30.
Speaker CAfter 30 you got to be accountable.
Speaker CAll right, which actually might be a good transition.
Speaker CWell, so I'll get you to finish up this point, but then we'll talk about radical accountability as well because I know that's another pillar so we can find out the awareness.
Speaker CWe then have a path, we know what we do well, unblock the friction, unblock the resistance that's doing it.
Speaker CAnd I kind of get that.
Speaker CAnd just sidebar on that, I've changed my mindset.
Speaker CLike for instance, recording, I'm recording a new book and it's work for a half hour recording.
Speaker CYou'll spend an hour and a half because of all the takes and retakes and to keep your energy up.
Speaker CIt's exhausting.
Speaker CAnd so I had a negative like, oh God, I gotta go do a recording.
Speaker CAnd so I shifted my mindset on that to it, Hey, I get to go do a recording.
Speaker CI get to spend an hour and a half free working with this, my content, making this amazing for an audience and do whatever.
Speaker CAnd just that simple frame, reframe.
Speaker CI now approach it differently and my results are different.
Speaker CI'm still tired when it's done, but woohoo, it's a big accomplishment and schedule it done.
Speaker CSo I schedule it.
Speaker CIf I leave it open, I need to do this today, but my tool is, it's scheduled and if it's scheduled, I'm doing it.
Speaker CSo that was how I get past the resistance.
Speaker CSo any final comments on that part?
Speaker CAnd then let's move into accountability.
Speaker DYeah, I really like, I like the topic.
Speaker DYou've raised there.
Speaker DAnd the only thing that I can say to that topic is I hear a lot of people that will change something and go.
Speaker DBecause it can feel like I got do that today.
Speaker DIt's a chore.
Speaker DIt's a burden.
Speaker DIt's something that I'm not necessarily looking forward to and I need to do it.
Speaker DYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker DWhat I hear is that a lot of people will change that and say to themselves, I get to.
Speaker DNow, what I find is that a percentage of the time, and I find it's not a small percentage.
Speaker DIt still lurks in the back of my mind that I need to.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DAnd so I still will feel that degree of pressure.
Speaker DSo the.
Speaker DOne of the principles that I teach as an analogy is, hey, you are the king or the queen on the throne.
Speaker DIn your world, you are the sovereign being, meaning you are the king.
Speaker DYou always have choice.
Speaker DSo anytime you tell yourself that you have to or you need to, you're actually lying to yourself because you don't.
Speaker DIt's your choice.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DSo instead of I get to do this, it can be as simple as I'm choosing to do this.
Speaker DChoosing has intent behind it.
Speaker CYeah, absolutely.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd so that for me, you know.
Speaker DHave you read.
Speaker DYou've probably read Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker COne of the first.
Speaker COkay, cool.
Speaker DHave you read his book called Outwitting the Devil?
Speaker CNo.
Speaker DMy strong recommendation, Outwitting the Devil, in my opinion, is the best book Napoleon Hill ever wrote.
Speaker DAnd in it, what he talks about is the risk of drifting.
Speaker DAnd if I talk about sovereignty and you're the king or queen on the throne, when you step off the throne, you're drifting.
Speaker DThat's really dangerous.
Speaker DYou're no longer intentional.
Speaker DAnd often when we've stepped off the throne, resistance has taken over, and so we drift.
Speaker DAnd what he spoke about in that book is it's about developing your invisible muscles.
Speaker DThese are not his words.
Speaker DThese are my words.
Speaker DWhat are your invisible muscles?
Speaker DFor me, invisible muscles are things like awareness, intention, interest.
Speaker DYou get to choose what you're interested in.
Speaker DIntuition.
Speaker DAnd the more that you develop those four, that gives you a greater ability to direct your attention to where you want it to go instead of drifting.
Speaker DSo what Napoleon Hill wrote about in Think and Grow Rich and Outwitting the Devil, that's exactly what we help the members of our community to develop within themselves so that they are more intentional.
Speaker DThey're able to do the things that they say they're going to do consistently.
Speaker DThat resistance gets removed.
Speaker CIt's interesting you know, how you characterize it and frame it.
Speaker CAnd that's why I love getting to meet people like yourselves, because you'll have a different angle or perspective on it.
Speaker CLike you were talking about change, you know, And I agree with you.
Speaker CPeople don't change unless the pain's so great they have to fear God's put into them or the pleasure so good they want to, right?
Speaker CSo they have to do that.
Speaker CI see so many people operating their boats on the water without a rudder and they're blown by the winds, wherever the winds are going, they're just not intentional with where they're going.
Speaker CThey got their job, somebody introduced them.
Speaker CThey get their next job versus going after and getting it.
Speaker CAnd it's a very hard thing to teach people that you can actually get to a destination if you set and chart your course, have a plan B.
Speaker CSo you know, as a pilot, when I'm going from say Calgary to Phoenix, I have a flight plan.
Speaker CI know which way I'm going.
Speaker CBut if I get down by Salt Lake and I know I'm going to run into bad weather in the mountains or whatever, I know I can go through Las Vegas or the California route, then cut back across.
Speaker CI have a plan B to it, even a plan C. And every commercial flight people take, there's plan B.
Speaker CAlways.
Speaker CThere's always an extra hour of fuel just in case we storm out and things don't go according to plan.
Speaker CWhat's your plan B?
Speaker CBut most people don't even have plan B, let alone a plan A.
Speaker CSo they're reactive instead of proactive.
Speaker CSo what I hear you saying, get your awareness, find out where the resistance are, find out more about you.
Speaker CSo it's kind of think of it as a, a horoscope on steroids or you're getting a look into yourself, but scientifically, say metaphysically based or historically based, how it's done, get a look at it like your engine light coming on like a medical diagnostic from the best Mayo Clinic in the planet.
Speaker CSo you know what's going on, what are your genetic predispositions, how are you thinking about things?
Speaker CBecause this all came from our programming, right?
Speaker CIf we look at our programming and what you're doing is you're adjusting, programming you as a butt head, 20 year old as you're going same.
Speaker CAnd we're all kind of butt head, but it was our environment.
Speaker CSo I grew up with parents who were immigrants.
Speaker CEngland, world second World War.
Speaker CChildren should be seen and not heard.
Speaker CPrivate school, boarding schools, like sent away.
Speaker CDon't you know, and you got smacked.
Speaker CIf you did something right, you got smacked.
Speaker CThose all factor in.
Speaker CAnd then the new generation where, no, you don't smack your kids anymore, at least publicly, but you got to.
Speaker CDo you find that a lot of that's environmental?
Speaker CHow people grow up is why they have that initial programming?
Speaker COr is it a problem with our education system?
Speaker COr where do you see it stemming from?
Speaker COr you probably see a lot of similar things.
Speaker DYeah, I do.
Speaker DAnd, man, you just raised a topic that I could talk for hours about.
Speaker DWhen it comes to the education system, the education system that we've been through does not teach an individual how to think.
Speaker DIt teaches an individual how to memorize and regurgitate.
Speaker DAnd that does not create understanding.
Speaker DI could talk about that for hours.
Speaker DBut the other side of what you just asked, where does it come from?
Speaker DYeah, it comes from our experiences.
Speaker DAnd so our experiences include being raised by our parents, the relationship we had with our grandparents, everything that happened in life from zero to, you know, 20, 28, really.
Speaker DAnd as we go through those experiences, we create survival mechanisms.
Speaker DWe create ways of surviving the moments that we were unwilling to experience.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DAnd there's where resistance sits.
Speaker DResistance fundamentally sits in moments that we're unwilling to experience.
Speaker DThat's when resistance gets created.
Speaker DWe then create a survival mechanism in order to cope with and deal with that resistance.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker DAnd a survival mechanism we created when we were 10, whether we like it or not, it still is there when we're 30 and 40 and 50, unless we do something about it.
Speaker DAnd a perfect example of that.
Speaker DI'm sure you can relate to this.
Speaker DI know I do.
Speaker DIs that we will have things that happen in life and they happen, and we react to them, and then three or four hours later, we find ourselves going, I wish I dealt with that differently.
Speaker DWhy did I do that?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DAnd kids will do that.
Speaker DAnd I don't have children, but I've got a harem of godson.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DThat's resistance in action.
Speaker DAnd that same concept happens with our work relationships.
Speaker DIt happens with our relationships with our significant others.
Speaker DWe have buttons that get pressed.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CTriggers.
Speaker DThe source of those buttons and triggers is the resistance within us.
Speaker DLife is so much more enjoyable when we remove that resistance because the buttons and the triggers are no longer there.
Speaker CDo you see patterns?
Speaker CDo you see the similar patterns, though, as people come back with the assessments?
Speaker CSo your approach, you have a number of ways to address the issue, but based on the individual.
Speaker CSo the solutions might not be standard, but you're seeing similar issues.
Speaker CSo you're working within that framework first of all and then growing that individual so that through awareness, they can then take accountability for their outcome.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIs that a good place for us to segue into at this point?
Speaker DYeah, it's essential.
Speaker DWhat I've actually created is a framework that supports the implementation of the three pillars we spoke about earlier.
Speaker DNow, this framework, I call the framework the Foundations of Successful Self Leadership.
Speaker DOne of the main points of that is taking extreme or absolute responsibility, which is accountability.
Speaker DRight, yeah.
Speaker DThe framework is based on my first 12 years of coaching people one on one.
Speaker DSo working with CEOs, founders and senior execs.
Speaker DAnd I saw a pattern and the pattern was that I was able to help that person get the change that they wanted after they understood these things.
Speaker DAnd I went, okay, well that's important, don't ignore that, Mike.
Speaker DThose things became the framework that I call the Foundations of Successful Self Leadership.
Speaker DAnd it's very simple, but it's not easy to implement and think with.
Speaker DOnce you can implement it and think with it, it then creates a framework that you can use to develop leaders on your team.
Speaker DBecause our number one function as leaders is develop more leaders.
Speaker CYeah, replace ourselves.
Speaker DIt's much easier to do that when you have a framework to work with.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker CAnd so you've seen lots of transformations, obviously.
Speaker CAnd like I say, I think people want to blame something with we've got AI coming out.
Speaker CI want to talk about that and how you've applied it to your models, because I think it accelerates things and helps things.
Speaker CSo for instance, I mentioned I'm not good at the details now.
Speaker CI record all of our conversations.
Speaker CSo all my client conversations get recorded automatically get put into a transcript.
Speaker CAll the action items get pulled out of it, all with AI and I get a summary of it.
Speaker CAnd then every day I get a push from our project management stuff saying, here's essential things that have to be done today that I diagnose and they're there and I just have to check them off and then it schedules them.
Speaker CSo for me, if my to DOS or action items tasks are scheduled, I do them.
Speaker CIf they aren't, well, then I don't see them.
Speaker CYou know, it's kind of like if I don't open the email and I process emails now that was one distraction.
Speaker CI don't respond to a ding.
Speaker CI process a couple times a day and when I'm done with the email, I'm done with the email and I'm just simplifying it all the time.
Speaker CSo I can keep clarity and maintain that.
Speaker CSo how can we add that responsibility?
Speaker CWhere do you see?
Speaker CPeople don't want to take responsibility because a lot of people want to go, hey, it's not me, it's them.
Speaker CWhat?
Speaker COr hey, technology is ruining my life right now.
Speaker COr hey, this new tech, it doesn't matter what, there's always a disruption.
Speaker CHow do you get people to start taking responsibility for their outcomes and results in life?
Speaker DYeah, again, there's the golden question.
Speaker DRight?
Speaker CYou could do a day on this one, I know you can.
Speaker COr days.
Speaker DYeah, easily.
Speaker DIt's amazing.
Speaker DI mean, look, it's much easier to blame somebody else or to blame something else.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker DThat's easy.
Speaker DSo if you are the sovereign being, if you're the king or the queen on the throne, let's not forget that.
Speaker DYeah, well, let's not forget that it was actually your birthright to take that position.
Speaker DYou were born to be in that role.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAnd your parents did the best job they could to raise you to take that position in your life.
Speaker DNow taking that position, hey man, remember, the buck stops with you.
Speaker DYou create the realm.
Speaker DAll of your decisions and ways of thinking create the realm that you live in.
Speaker DIt creates your kingdom.
Speaker DNow that structure works really well as long as you stay on the throne.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DBut it's pretty easy to jump off the throne into abdication or get knocked off.
Speaker CWe've all seen Game of Thrones or the Knights of the seven King, we're watching those and you got to watch your back.
Speaker CBut yeah, this is self inflicted, is what you're saying.
Speaker DIt is.
Speaker DBecause if you drop down into abdication.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DFundamentally you do not feel okay.
Speaker DAnd if you do not feel okay, your goal becomes to feel okay.
Speaker DNow the only real way to feel okay is to take absolute responsibility and jump back up on the throne and go, okay, how did I create this?
Speaker DHow did I create this problem?
Speaker DAnd what am I going to do to change it?
Speaker DBut that's not easy to do.
Speaker DSo what we do instead is we drop down into resignation.
Speaker DAnd in resignation we will lie, lay blame, rationalize, justify, make excuses, tell stories we'll look for and come up with reasons why, which are often lies and blames.
Speaker DAnd we do all of that in order to feel okay.
Speaker DDoes it work?
Speaker CNo.
Speaker DSo then we drop down into another state called ambivalence.
Speaker CI've done that too.
Speaker CAnd we've.
Speaker CI'm guilty of that myself, so I understand that.
Speaker DMe too.
Speaker DMe too.
Speaker DThis was one of the most significant lessons that I had when I was in that late 20s, early 30s is like, wow.
Speaker DAmbivalence is where we take on a role and we act in a certain way in order to hide or cover how we really feel.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DSo we put on a Persona and all that stems from stepping off the throne.
Speaker CYeah, Makes sense.
Speaker CNo, I love the analogy.
Speaker CIt's a perfect analogy.
Speaker CYou're the king or queen of your kingdom.
Speaker CYou get to design it.
Speaker CYou get to say, what does this realm look like?
Speaker CAnd own it.
Speaker CBut like I say, it's awareness and identify the blind spots.
Speaker CSo time always moves so fast when we do this.
Speaker CWhat's the best way?
Speaker CIf I want to come in and take that, the website's advancedbusinessabilities.com but if I want to do that audit, check that out and go through that.
Speaker CI believe you offer that.
Speaker DYeah, look, we, we've actually set up a short audit.
Speaker DWe can call it an executive effectiveness audit or benchmark.
Speaker DPeople can do that completely free of charge if they go to audit.advancedbusinessabilities.com this 15 questions you'll respond to.
Speaker DWhat you'll get from that is a report with the benchmark that tells you the areas that would be wise for you to put your attention on over the next 90 days.
Speaker DAnd it gives you a degree of a 90 day plan.
Speaker DYou can do that for free.
Speaker DAnd if you want to discuss it or you want to discuss getting some support, then after you've done that, you could book a call with us free of charge and we'll have a chat to see how much of a good fit we are and whether or not you're the type of person that will really respond well to our approach.
Speaker CAnd if I have a leader, because I know you, Max, you focus on maximizing team performance, so you work with teams.
Speaker CSo if I'm a leader and I have a team, and particularly going into tougher times, we got global uncertainty, economic uncertainty.
Speaker CIt's important to know who my team players are and have workups and profiles on them.
Speaker CThey can approach you, talk to you and they can bring you in house or, and you can advise to that or like I say, run assessments, give them a 100%.
Speaker DThe way that we tend to structure, that is we will work with an organization as long as the leader is involved.
Speaker DSo if the leader wants us to just work with their team, we're not for you.
Speaker DI work with the leader, the CEO, the senior exec, and then I have a team that will work with that person's team so that we get a bit of separation, and we'll do as much or as little as they want us to in order to help identify the potential future leaders and then help to develop those people.
Speaker CFantastic.
Speaker CWell, if you're looking to maximize your team's performance, you're looking for measurable coaching, personalized for professionals, and you want to unblock your path to success.
Speaker CAdvancedbusinessabilities.com and Mike Irving.
Speaker CMike, this is a pleasure.
Speaker CAlways glad to have you back again.
Speaker CAnd I know you got a new book coming out, so please come back when you get your new book out.
Speaker CAnd do you want to tell us a little teaser on that one?
Speaker DYeah, absolutely.
Speaker DSo Unseen Leadership is the title and it fundamentally is the basis of, hey, what is Unseen Leadership?
Speaker DAnd for me, it's very much related to Outwitting the Devil with Napoleon Hill.
Speaker DUnseen Leadership is the work that you do on yourself as a leader to remove the resistance that gets in the way.
Speaker DAnd the book is about, hey, what's the approach?
Speaker DHow do you do that?
Speaker DAnd we're not far off from launching it.
Speaker DI'll let you know when it's ready.
Speaker DIt'll still be another month or two.
Speaker DYeah, no problem.
Speaker CThanks, Mike.
Speaker DThanks for having me.
Speaker DNo, it's my pleasure.
Speaker BAs you are listening to this episode, what is one idea that you've heard that's caught your attention and why does it matter so much to you?
Speaker BAnd who is one person who you can share that with, either sharing this episode or just sharing that insight that occurred to you while you were listening?
Speaker BPerhaps it is the idea that removing resistance, not just adding more effort, is the secret to rapid growth.
Speaker BOr perhaps it is the realization that our blind spots are often the very things yanking the rug from out under our feet without us knowing it.
Speaker BThank you for listening, for learning, and for investing in yourself so that you can become the best version of you.
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